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	<title>Comments on: iPod touch nay-sayers: shackled by &#8220;gadget thinking&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2007/10/01/ipod-touch-nay-sayers-shackled-by-gadget-thinking/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I totally agree with Fredrik and how most pundits &quot;assumed&quot; certain things. But here among the hoi polloi, my friends and I (early-adopters in some cases, but mostly just plain folk) recognized that this was a mobile computing platform. I felt that all along, Apple would release upgrades and so forth and the SDK and such, because it was a hardware device with ONE BUTTON! The rest of it is software based, and therefore INFINITELY upgrade-able. So they didn&#039;t release the whole she-bang at first. 

Look at how many iterations of iTunes there have been and how many incremental upgrades in between. Each one added something. The phone has ONE BUTTON. That is the extent of it hardware &quot;limitation&quot;. 

Now we all know that the SDK is out and iPhone 2.0 will be out in June. But the reason I got the iPhone and not another computer is that the iPhone is the cheapest computer on the market right now, and it is totally virtual.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Fredrik and how most pundits &#8220;assumed&#8221; certain things. But here among the hoi polloi, my friends and I (early-adopters in some cases, but mostly just plain folk) recognized that this was a mobile computing platform. I felt that all along, Apple would release upgrades and so forth and the SDK and such, because it was a hardware device with ONE BUTTON! The rest of it is software based, and therefore INFINITELY upgrade-able. So they didn&#8217;t release the whole she-bang at first. </p>
<p>Look at how many iterations of iTunes there have been and how many incremental upgrades in between. Each one added something. The phone has ONE BUTTON. That is the extent of it hardware &#8220;limitation&#8221;. </p>
<p>Now we all know that the SDK is out and iPhone 2.0 will be out in June. But the reason I got the iPhone and not another computer is that the iPhone is the cheapest computer on the market right now, and it is totally virtual.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredrik Matheson</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2007/10/01/ipod-touch-nay-sayers-shackled-by-gadget-thinking/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fredrik Matheson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what I gather the reason why Apple didn&#039;t want third-party apps on the iPhone to begin with was that the OS wasn&#039;t finished. They apparently wanted to get it out the door so they could get rolling. Now the OS has been thoroughly updated and the SDK will be available in the not-too-distant future.

While Apple is no doubt quite skilled at handling information and PR, their way of communicating reality can cause a bit of confusion. Of course we thought the iPhone was done. Of course we assumed that their &quot;no&quot; to third-party apps was somewhat permanent and had some hard-to-fathom reason. In reality, I think they were just applying a bit of misdirection at the appropriate moment. We all thought &quot;oh well, this is how it&#039;s going to be&quot; instead of &quot;it&#039;ll come when they finish the product.

Cognitive dissonance, I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I gather the reason why Apple didn&#8217;t want third-party apps on the iPhone to begin with was that the OS wasn&#8217;t finished. They apparently wanted to get it out the door so they could get rolling. Now the OS has been thoroughly updated and the SDK will be available in the not-too-distant future.</p>
<p>While Apple is no doubt quite skilled at handling information and PR, their way of communicating reality can cause a bit of confusion. Of course we thought the iPhone was done. Of course we assumed that their &#8220;no&#8221; to third-party apps was somewhat permanent and had some hard-to-fathom reason. In reality, I think they were just applying a bit of misdirection at the appropriate moment. We all thought &#8220;oh well, this is how it&#8217;s going to be&#8221; instead of &#8220;it&#8217;ll come when they finish the product.</p>
<p>Cognitive dissonance, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Nokia N81: Ominous lesson to iPhone from carriers &#171; counternotions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nokia N81: Ominous lesson to iPhone from carriers &#171; counternotions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 9th, 2007   In comments on &#8220;iPod touch nay-sayers: shackled by &#8216;gadget thinking&#8217;&#8221; one of my observant readers says: What about iChat? “We can’t have iChat because [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Kontra</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2007/10/01/ipod-touch-nay-sayers-shackled-by-gadget-thinking/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kontra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter, should Apple ignore the labels and allow users to copy ring-tones? Should Apple ignore the AT&amp;T contract and enable iChat to make free VOIP calls? Should Apple make it easier/transparent to playback non-DRM media on aTV? Etc.

They could. But it&#039;s very difficult to &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; negotiate a contract with the IP owners. Do you think for a moment that Apple could have had the iPod success if it hadn&#039;t negotiated an easy-DRM, $0.99/song, comprehensive catalog deal with the labels?

Yes, Apple did get into bed with AT&amp;T (allegedly, the company that cooperated with the government to spy on us). Do we castigate Apple for that and call it a day? Or congratulate it for taking the first ballsy step to fundamentally alter the power phone carriers with its groundbreaking revenue sharing model or Wi-Fi implementation? Even executives of Nokia and Motorola are grateful for Apple realigning the market.

Design is a balance. It can&#039;t happen without compromise. Who else is giving us, on a consistent basis, products with better balances?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, should Apple ignore the labels and allow users to copy ring-tones? Should Apple ignore the AT&amp;T contract and enable iChat to make free VOIP calls? Should Apple make it easier/transparent to playback non-DRM media on aTV? Etc.</p>
<p>They could. But it&#8217;s very difficult to <em>then</em> negotiate a contract with the IP owners. Do you think for a moment that Apple could have had the iPod success if it hadn&#8217;t negotiated an easy-DRM, $0.99/song, comprehensive catalog deal with the labels?</p>
<p>Yes, Apple did get into bed with AT&amp;T (allegedly, the company that cooperated with the government to spy on us). Do we castigate Apple for that and call it a day? Or congratulate it for taking the first ballsy step to fundamentally alter the power phone carriers with its groundbreaking revenue sharing model or Wi-Fi implementation? Even executives of Nokia and Motorola are grateful for Apple realigning the market.</p>
<p>Design is a balance. It can&#8217;t happen without compromise. Who else is giving us, on a consistent basis, products with better balances?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2007/10/01/ipod-touch-nay-sayers-shackled-by-gadget-thinking/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d argue, though, that much of Apple&#039;s success has come from creating great products that let consumers do things they want to do.

Consider &quot;Rip, Mix, Burn.&quot;  The music industry was aghast that customers could take music they owned (and didn&#039;t) and make their own mix CDs.  Heck, I remember music honchos complaining to Congress about how computer companies were encouraging people to steal music (using &quot;Rip, Mix, Burn&quot; as an example).

Today?  &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0077975/quotes#qt0132616&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Ooh, we can&#039;t let you make ringtones, Mr. Customer.  We might get in trouble!&quot;&lt;/A&gt;  (Use your best Bluto imitation for that one)

Once Apple stops creating those products, the customers will find someone else who will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d argue, though, that much of Apple&#8217;s success has come from creating great products that let consumers do things they want to do.</p>
<p>Consider &#8220;Rip, Mix, Burn.&#8221;  The music industry was aghast that customers could take music they owned (and didn&#8217;t) and make their own mix CDs.  Heck, I remember music honchos complaining to Congress about how computer companies were encouraging people to steal music (using &#8220;Rip, Mix, Burn&#8221; as an example).</p>
<p>Today?  <a HREF="http://imdb.com/title/tt0077975/quotes#qt0132616" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Ooh, we can&#8217;t let you make ringtones, Mr. Customer.  We might get in trouble!&#8221;</a>  (Use your best Bluto imitation for that one)</p>
<p>Once Apple stops creating those products, the customers will find someone else who will.</p>
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		<title>By: Kontra</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2007/10/01/ipod-touch-nay-sayers-shackled-by-gadget-thinking/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kontra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter: &quot;Whatever happened to the Apple that didn’t release something until it was right?&quot;

In the second coming of Jobs, that no longer is the approach Apple&#039;s taking. Whether it&#039;s Aperture, iMovie 08, Spotlight or iPhone, Apple&#039;s willing to release products before they reach maturity. Why? It may have to do with additional revenue :-) However, without AAPL&#039;s stellar financial performance (and margins) over the last few years Apple would be nowhere today. That record allows the company to do a lot of things and take risks (like aTV)  it otherwise couldn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: &#8220;Whatever happened to the Apple that didn’t release something until it was right?&#8221;</p>
<p>In the second coming of Jobs, that no longer is the approach Apple&#8217;s taking. Whether it&#8217;s Aperture, iMovie 08, Spotlight or iPhone, Apple&#8217;s willing to release products before they reach maturity. Why? It may have to do with additional revenue :-) However, without AAPL&#8217;s stellar financial performance (and margins) over the last few years Apple would be nowhere today. That record allows the company to do a lot of things and take risks (like aTV)  it otherwise couldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2007/10/01/ipod-touch-nay-sayers-shackled-by-gadget-thinking/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the difficulties I have is with the list of reasons is that, frankly, they all pertain to Apple.

Whatever happened to the Apple that didn&#039;t release something until it was right?  What happened to the Apple that &quot;sweated the details&quot;?  Are you telling me that nobody at Apple thought, &quot;Nah.  Who needs copy and paste?&quot;

All the excuses and rationalizations mostly pertain to Apple&#039;s business.  What about iChat?  &quot;We can&#039;t have iChat because AT&amp;T would get upset because people wouldn&#039;t be paying money to send SMS messages.&quot;  Customers want to make ringtones out of music that they already own.  &quot;Well, we can&#039;t let you do that because it might offend the music industry.&quot;

In other words, screw what the customer wants.

As an aside, I&#039;ve been laughing lately at the &quot;Apple is as bad as Microsoft&quot; angle.  One interesting comparison is that Microsoft promises the world and then fails to deliver.  In the case of the iPhone, Apple, conversely, doesn&#039;t exactly promise the world but implies that if you just stick around long enough, they&#039;ll eventually deliver.  Bring up things that the iPhone doesn&#039;t do and Apple and their cheerleaders will immediately come back with, &quot;Oh!  But Apple will be releasing updates that might let you do that someday!&quot;

In other words, &quot;Stick with us and someday we&#039;ll get it right.&quot;  Gee...sounds alot like Microsoft, doesn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the difficulties I have is with the list of reasons is that, frankly, they all pertain to Apple.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to the Apple that didn&#8217;t release something until it was right?  What happened to the Apple that &#8220;sweated the details&#8221;?  Are you telling me that nobody at Apple thought, &#8220;Nah.  Who needs copy and paste?&#8221;</p>
<p>All the excuses and rationalizations mostly pertain to Apple&#8217;s business.  What about iChat?  &#8220;We can&#8217;t have iChat because AT&amp;T would get upset because people wouldn&#8217;t be paying money to send SMS messages.&#8221;  Customers want to make ringtones out of music that they already own.  &#8220;Well, we can&#8217;t let you do that because it might offend the music industry.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, screw what the customer wants.</p>
<p>As an aside, I&#8217;ve been laughing lately at the &#8220;Apple is as bad as Microsoft&#8221; angle.  One interesting comparison is that Microsoft promises the world and then fails to deliver.  In the case of the iPhone, Apple, conversely, doesn&#8217;t exactly promise the world but implies that if you just stick around long enough, they&#8217;ll eventually deliver.  Bring up things that the iPhone doesn&#8217;t do and Apple and their cheerleaders will immediately come back with, &#8220;Oh!  But Apple will be releasing updates that might let you do that someday!&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, &#8220;Stick with us and someday we&#8217;ll get it right.&#8221;  Gee&#8230;sounds alot like Microsoft, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: jakengracey</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2007/10/01/ipod-touch-nay-sayers-shackled-by-gadget-thinking/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jakengracey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article. It is all about the user experience. How a company addresses user experience in it products or services will define (usually) how successful a product is. Open or closed is irrelevant. What matters is user experience. 

Same for consumer products, same for web sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. It is all about the user experience. How a company addresses user experience in it products or services will define (usually) how successful a product is. Open or closed is irrelevant. What matters is user experience. </p>
<p>Same for consumer products, same for web sites.</p>
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		<title>By: MetalboySiSo</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2007/10/01/ipod-touch-nay-sayers-shackled-by-gadget-thinking/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MetalboySiSo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 04:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[K,

This article was right on the money, but I left this comment to say that your reply to Tom B. was right on the money as well. M$ has COMPLETELY admitted that an integrated HW/SW model is the way to go, a la Apple. Daniel Eran also pointed this out in one (or several) of his articles on Roughly Drafted Magazine (roughlydrafted.com). Check it out, if you&#039;r e not already a fan, I&#039;d be willing to bet you soon will be.


SiSo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K,</p>
<p>This article was right on the money, but I left this comment to say that your reply to Tom B. was right on the money as well. M$ has COMPLETELY admitted that an integrated HW/SW model is the way to go, a la Apple. Daniel Eran also pointed this out in one (or several) of his articles on Roughly Drafted Magazine (roughlydrafted.com). Check it out, if you&#8217;r e not already a fan, I&#8217;d be willing to bet you soon will be.</p>
<p>SiSo</p>
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		<title>By: Ry-borg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ry-borg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Read!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Read!!!</p>
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