Comments on: Nokia N81: Ominous lesson to iPhone from carriers

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By: Wifiguy

Wifiguy — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:43:00 +0000

For the guy or girl who said that Apple is offering much of the same I say you don’t know what your talking about. First of all, the iPhone is usings At and t’s edge network, which is too slow to buy music over it the air. Apple was able to get the carriers to approve of it putting wifi in the product which allows customers to buy songs wirelessly using the iPhone. It doesn’t have the At andt branding or malware. Are you kidding me? That’s progress!!

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Who can beat iPhone 2.0? « counternotions — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:39:45 +0000

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By: Joe

Joe — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:16:46 +0000

Good post but its old news and there have happen lot of news in UK for example. Vodaphone ,02 , Carphone Warehouse ,Phones4U , Telefonica have make deals to OVI and
it be bigger evry day round the world.

By: mark

mark — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 01:14:25 +0000

“I guess that’s why it’s so much fun just observing the Cupertino team.” It’s not only fun, but a very stimulating intellectual exercise in business strategy and execution. Of course, the very fact that Jobs and Co. are so “secretive”, makes every word they utter (about direction) carry so much weight. Observing, analyzing, and “guessing”, then seeing what actually transpires has taught me so much about consumers, products, strategy, marketing, and retail. (And the other part of the fun is seeing how badly most financial analysts, industry analysts, journalists, CEOs, and other pundits really are when it comes to Apple gazing.)

Thanks again for your post.

By: Kontra

Kontra — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:35:33 +0000

Thanks, fog city dave. As you say, this is the difference between manufacturing a gadget vs. engaging in strategic design horizontally and vertically that not only moves your product but manages to change an industry in the process as well. What seems like incomplete moves by Apple at the time they make them turn out to be integrated maneuvers in retrospect. I guess that’s why it’s so much fun just observing the Cupertino team.

By: fog city dave

fog city dave — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:26:22 +0000

By the way, Kontra… nice article. You’ve brought reason to the flood of “Apple is pissing on us” nonsense. One thing that I’ve come to realize over the last ten years is that Apple has a road map, and they are making moves now that will only become clear to those outside One Infinite Loop in the following months or years. Purposefully antagonizing consumers is probably not part of their plan, I would imagine, though many seem to believe that.

By: fog city dave

fog city dave — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:20:44 +0000

Peter, it is overly simplistic to suggest that all Apple got out of its exclusivity with AT&T is Visual Voicemail. It is even more simplistic to assume that Apple could have made GSM and CDMA versions of the iPhone and you would have been able to walk up to any carrier and say “I’d like service please.” Do you think Verizon Wireless is really going to let you use a phone on their network with YouTube, Google Maps, and the ability to side-load music and videos from iTunes to it? Are you insane? Verizon is all about making you pay for those things through V Cast. That is their raison d’etre, my man. What AT&T gave up to Apple was so much more than Visual Voicemail and revenue sharing. It was complete non-interference in the design. Yes, an AT&T iPhone currently lacks iChat and VoIP (we’ll see what happens post-SDK), but I venture that a Verizon iPhone would have lacked maps, weather, stocks, YouTube and the integration with iTunes for music, videos and podcasts. Some iPhone that would have been…

By: Whoa Peter!

Whoa Peter! — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:32:32 +0000

Peter,

You are overlooking a simple, powerful fact. The iPhone will be Apple’s 2nd dominant product (iPod being the 1st). Apple has to focus on satisfying the SILENT masses (90% satisfaction); it can’t sacrifice its coming dominance by bowing to the pressure of it’s most loyal whiners.

Winning the whiners’ approval would get Apple some points.

But optimizing the products’ mass user experience for elegance, usability, reliability, security, and ongoing innovation will win the GAME.

So, which do you choose? Home run or the series?

By: Tom B

Tom B — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:20:02 +0000

“Apple basically delivered a crippled iPhone in order to make AT&T happy.”

ATT is the biggest GSM carrier in the US. They just bought 12 MHz of the magic 700 MHz band. This is gonna get interesting.