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	<description>Musings on strategic design by Kontra, a veteran design and management surgeon, perennially in search of complex problems to operate on.</description>
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		<title>By: Android un-Marketing vs. iPhone Marketing &#171; picocosmos</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-3154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Android un-Marketing vs. iPhone Marketing &#171; picocosmos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] See also &#8220;How do you sell an Android phone?&#8221; on http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See also &#8220;How do you sell an Android phone?&#8221; on <a href="http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/" rel="nofollow">http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kontra</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-2465</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TAP: &lt;em&gt;&quot;the figures speak for themselves&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

What figures? I haven&#039;t seen &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; hard numbers from primary sources at all. If you recall, it was widely claimed that 1.5 million G1 units were sold in the U.S. alone within a few months of its introduction, which was bogus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TAP: <em>&#8220;the figures speak for themselves&#8221;</em></p>
<p>What figures? I haven&#8217;t seen <em>any</em> hard numbers from primary sources at all. If you recall, it was widely claimed that 1.5 million G1 units were sold in the U.S. alone within a few months of its introduction, which was bogus.</p>
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		<title>By: TAP (Top Android Phones)</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-2464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TAP (Top Android Phones)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a fair question but several months on I think the figures speak for themselves as T-Mobile UK now claims that 20% of new contract sales are for the G1 and estimates put UK sales at 700 000 units. T-Mobile obviously did something right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a fair question but several months on I think the figures speak for themselves as T-Mobile UK now claims that 20% of new contract sales are for the G1 and estimates put UK sales at 700 000 units. T-Mobile obviously did something right.</p>
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		<title>By: Deanston</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-1477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deanston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Android would sell provided 1) they come up what a really cute robot mascot and related toys to give away at purchase; 2) each phone maker can actually put their individual spin on their phone model (ala Instinct, Dare, etc.) to differentiate their product as opposed to just a line of Samsung Google phone vs. Verizon Google phone vs. ATT Google phone... all with the exact same look-and-feel and functions and features.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Android would sell provided 1) they come up what a really cute robot mascot and related toys to give away at purchase; 2) each phone maker can actually put their individual spin on their phone model (ala Instinct, Dare, etc.) to differentiate their product as opposed to just a line of Samsung Google phone vs. Verizon Google phone vs. ATT Google phone&#8230; all with the exact same look-and-feel and functions and features.</p>
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		<title>By: Kontra</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kontra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ziad: &lt;em&gt;&quot;capability to escape the proprietary walled gardens which subsidized the hardware on purchase&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, and I&#039;m really curious if the end-result of all this will one day be a level market where unsubsidized devices are sold (just like PCs) against 4G-standardized network services world over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ziad: <em>&#8220;capability to escape the proprietary walled gardens which subsidized the hardware on purchase&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Yes, and I&#8217;m really curious if the end-result of all this will one day be a level market where unsubsidized devices are sold (just like PCs) against 4G-standardized network services world over.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziad</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-1469</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe Android will be provided on cellphones sold by operators except in limited cases like the HTC, a device with many hardware features, and little to no subsidy.

Android has greater value as a replacement for Windows Mobile and Symbian on phones that are locked 25 ways from Sunday to offerings from the cellular operator only.  Like being able to wipe a Windows PC choked by crapware with Linux, Android offers the capability to escape the proprietary walled gardens which subsidized the hardware on purchase.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe Android will be provided on cellphones sold by operators except in limited cases like the HTC, a device with many hardware features, and little to no subsidy.</p>
<p>Android has greater value as a replacement for Windows Mobile and Symbian on phones that are locked 25 ways from Sunday to offerings from the cellular operator only.  Like being able to wipe a Windows PC choked by crapware with Linux, Android offers the capability to escape the proprietary walled gardens which subsidized the hardware on purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: Berend Schotanus</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-1461</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berend Schotanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes: Good design is more than a good looking skin wrapping a horrible foundation.
And Yes: the talent to combine hard and soft aspects in design is extremely rare.

Still, I would consider Apple to be a life style company. And I would consider Steve Jobs to be an artist who can match with the names I mentioned before, each on their own field.
Apple is concentrating on a top layer - user experience - building their products with existing components and third party manufacturing. Even OS X can be seen as a skin around Unix.

If I had to compete with Apple I would focus on user experience, which includes interaction, behaviour, reliability and performance. It&#039;s this &quot;top layer&quot; that determines the integration, which is pretty difficult. Underneath the top layer there are lots of very good &quot;components&quot; that can fit in. Googles Android helps, if you see the core OS as a &quot;component&quot;.

Apple has a tremendous head-start and will definitely be a big player. But the Apple &quot;snob&quot; image does not appeal to everybody and all over the world companies will try and compete. They will try and fail, fail again, fail better... Existing parties will be more than happy to participate in the competition. The key part will be the integration and we might need a little wonder (or: newborn artist) over there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes: Good design is more than a good looking skin wrapping a horrible foundation.<br />
And Yes: the talent to combine hard and soft aspects in design is extremely rare.</p>
<p>Still, I would consider Apple to be a life style company. And I would consider Steve Jobs to be an artist who can match with the names I mentioned before, each on their own field.<br />
Apple is concentrating on a top layer &#8211; user experience &#8211; building their products with existing components and third party manufacturing. Even OS X can be seen as a skin around Unix.</p>
<p>If I had to compete with Apple I would focus on user experience, which includes interaction, behaviour, reliability and performance. It&#8217;s this &#8220;top layer&#8221; that determines the integration, which is pretty difficult. Underneath the top layer there are lots of very good &#8220;components&#8221; that can fit in. Googles Android helps, if you see the core OS as a &#8220;component&#8221;.</p>
<p>Apple has a tremendous head-start and will definitely be a big player. But the Apple &#8220;snob&#8221; image does not appeal to everybody and all over the world companies will try and compete. They will try and fail, fail again, fail better&#8230; Existing parties will be more than happy to participate in the competition. The key part will be the integration and we might need a little wonder (or: newborn artist) over there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kontra</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kontra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Berend: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Ralf Laurens, Pininfarinas or Norman Fosters&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m surprised you say that because many of those names tried their hands in the hardware &#039;design&#039; business from hard disks to laptops to mice. It&#039;s been worse than a yawn, in general. I think what the iPhone proves beyond anything else is that true design innovation only comes through the seamless integration of hardware + software + services, as I explained in:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://counternotions.com/2008/03/10/iphone2-competitors/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Who can beat iPhone 2.0?&lt;/a&gt;

Designers from non-consumer fields don&#039;t often grok the nature of that integration, so we get lipstick on a pig like the Prada phones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berend: <em>&#8220;Ralf Laurens, Pininfarinas or Norman Fosters&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised you say that because many of those names tried their hands in the hardware &#8216;design&#8217; business from hard disks to laptops to mice. It&#8217;s been worse than a yawn, in general. I think what the iPhone proves beyond anything else is that true design innovation only comes through the seamless integration of hardware + software + services, as I explained in:</p>
<p><a href="http://counternotions.com/2008/03/10/iphone2-competitors/" rel="nofollow">Who can beat iPhone 2.0?</a></p>
<p>Designers from non-consumer fields don&#8217;t often grok the nature of that integration, so we get lipstick on a pig like the Prada phones.</p>
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		<title>By: Berend Schotanus</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-1458</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berend Schotanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phones are fashionable life-style products. Android appears to me to be a component - an interesting alternative for Windows Mobile - but still a component just like the processor and the memory.

To sell a phone I think you need a life-style brand, a brand that integrates values, technology and design. Hardware components, the basic OS and manufacturing can be purchased from third parties. But the finishing touch, including the top layer of the user interface, needs to be provided by a really talented designer.

I don&#039;t expect Android to become a design brand by itself, but i&#039;d love to see it enable future Ralf Laurens, Pininfarinas or Norman Fosters to enter the market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phones are fashionable life-style products. Android appears to me to be a component &#8211; an interesting alternative for Windows Mobile &#8211; but still a component just like the processor and the memory.</p>
<p>To sell a phone I think you need a life-style brand, a brand that integrates values, technology and design. Hardware components, the basic OS and manufacturing can be purchased from third parties. But the finishing touch, including the top layer of the user interface, needs to be provided by a really talented designer.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect Android to become a design brand by itself, but i&#8217;d love to see it enable future Ralf Laurens, Pininfarinas or Norman Fosters to enter the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Rask</title>
		<link>http://counternotions.com/2008/09/15/android/#comment-1438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rask]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think &quot;Powered by Google&quot; would be one of them.  It would be an immediate and very safe eye catcher.

Is there a fixed feature set to Android?  if there isn&#039;t then an overarching campaign by Google to promote these isn&#039;t really am option.

Google could dump a whole lot of ads in their ad-sense on behalf of it&#039;s partners but I doubt that Google will do this one.

How to sell this thing indeed..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;Powered by Google&#8221; would be one of them.  It would be an immediate and very safe eye catcher.</p>
<p>Is there a fixed feature set to Android?  if there isn&#8217;t then an overarching campaign by Google to promote these isn&#8217;t really am option.</p>
<p>Google could dump a whole lot of ads in their ad-sense on behalf of it&#8217;s partners but I doubt that Google will do this one.</p>
<p>How to sell this thing indeed..</p>
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